From steve at shrogers.com Tue Oct 17 21:31:13 2006
From: steve at shrogers.com (Steven H. Rogers)
Date: Tue Oct 17 21:31:02 2006
Subject: [apluslist] Mailing List Archive
Message-ID: <453583E1.2050606@shrogers.com>
Is there a mailing list archive? The Mail Archive page
(http://aplusdev.org/Lists/index.html) on the A+ web site doesn't
reference one.
Regards,
Steve
--
Steven H. Rogers, Ph.D., steve@shrogers.com
Weblog: http://shrogers.com/weblog
"He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense."
-- John McCarthy
From ber at z-world.com Fri Nov 3 01:16:37 2006
From: ber at z-world.com (Brian Redman)
Date: Fri Nov 3 01:19:00 2006
Subject: [apluslist] Mailing List Archive
Message-ID: <4052C718-8314-4DCB-9FE2-548997DA77A7@z-world.com>
> Is there a mailing list archive? The Mail Archive page
> (http://aplusdev.org/Lists/index.html) on the A+ web site doesn't
> reference one.
Yes.
ber
From wbs at infowest.com Sat Nov 4 07:22:52 2006
From: wbs at infowest.com (Lorin Lund)
Date: Sat Nov 4 07:24:43 2006
Subject: [apluslist] Compile error has me stumped - Mac OS X.3 (PPC)
Message-ID: <454C861C.7060108@infowest.com>
In file included from IPCInterface.C:14:
../a/fncdcls.h:256: error: parse error before `<<' token
make[2]: *** [IPCInterface.o] Error 1
But line 256 of src/a/fncdcls.h looks like
extern void ff(A); /* u */
No '<<' evident. And I don't expect 'extern', 'void', or 'A' to be
preprocessor defines.
And since ff is being declared I wouldn't expect it to be a define either.
But I guess it is possible.
Has anyone seen this problem before?
From neil at occamsrazor.net Sat Nov 4 08:15:16 2006
From: neil at occamsrazor.net (Neil Roeth)
Date: Sat Nov 4 08:19:47 2006
Subject: [apluslist] Compile error has me stumped - Mac OS X.3 (PPC)
In-Reply-To: <454C861C.7060108@infowest.com>
References: <454C861C.7060108@infowest.com>
Message-ID: <17740.37476.761233.404176@ml330.occamsrazor.net>
On Nov 4, Lorin Lund (wbs@infowest.com) wrote:
> In file included from IPCInterface.C:14:
> ../a/fncdcls.h:256: error: parse error before `<<' token
> make[2]: *** [IPCInterface.o] Error 1
>
> But line 256 of src/a/fncdcls.h looks like
> extern void ff(A); /* u */
>
> No '<<' evident. And I don't expect 'extern', 'void', or 'A' to be
> preprocessor defines.
> And since ff is being declared I wouldn't expect it to be a define either.
> But I guess it is possible.
>
> Has anyone seen this problem before?
No, but since you suspect a preprocessor problem, I would suggest running the
preprocessor only (-E option for gcc). If the output has the '<<' in it then
you know that is the problem, if not, then it's some strange compiler error.
--
Neil Roeth
From tavmem at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 22:54:23 2006
From: tavmem at gmail.com (Tom Szczesny)
Date: Wed Dec 13 22:54:32 2006
Subject: [apluslist] Getting started
Message-ID: <13ed887d0612131954y230917bfn7b8899e7cc6c9319@mail.gmail.com>
I have installed Fedora 6 (x86 version 2.6.18-1.2849.fc6), Emacs and A+.
I am using the first tutorial (Emacs and A+), and am having some trouble
getting started.
In terminal mode:
when I enter the command /usr/local/bin/a+ (as indicated in the
documentation), I get an error message (no such file or directory).
The appropriate command appears to be /usr/bin/a+
The A+ system starts up identifying itself as version 4.20, but I get an
error message
/usr/lib/a+/idap.+: no such file or directory
The system appears to be looking for /usr/lib64/a+/idap.+ which
does exist, but the A+ system is not finding it.
There is no Emacs/A+ application to start up (as indicated in the
documentation),
but I can start Emacs.
When I do start an Emacs session and get into the *scratch* buffer,
the documenation states that when I press F4, the Emacs window should split
into two buffers, with the bottom one being an A+ session.
When I press F4, nothing happens at all.
What steps do you recommend?
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From tavmem at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 23:03:12 2006
From: tavmem at gmail.com (Tom Szczesny)
Date: Wed Dec 13 23:03:16 2006
Subject: [apluslist] Typo: I am using the ia64 version of Fedora-6 and of A+
Message-ID: <13ed887d0612132003u64e9e7e6wff9adc287c79629c@mail.gmail.com>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Tom Szczesny
Date: Dec 13, 2006 10:54 PM
Subject: Getting started
To: apluslist@aplusdev.net
I have installed Fedora 6 (x86 version 2.6.18-1.2849.fc6), Emacs and A+.
I am using the first tutorial (Emacs and A+), and am having some trouble
getting started.
In terminal mode:
when I enter the command /usr/local/bin/a+ (as indicated in the
documentation), I get an error message (no such file or directory).
The appropriate command appears to be /usr/bin/a+
The A+ system starts up identifying itself as version 4.20, but I get an
error message
/usr/lib/a+/idap.+: no such file or directory
The system appears to be looking for /usr/lib64/a+/idap.+ which
does exist, but the A+ system is not finding it.
There is no Emacs/A+ application to start up (as indicated in the
documentation),
but I can start Emacs.
When I do start an Emacs session and get into the *scratch* buffer,
the documenation states that when I press F4, the Emacs window should split
into two buffers, with the bottom one being an A+ session.
When I press F4, nothing happens at all.
What steps do you recommend?
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From wbs at infowest.com Wed Dec 13 23:59:34 2006
From: wbs at infowest.com (Lorin Lund)
Date: Wed Dec 13 23:59:49 2006
Subject: [apluslist] A+ for CGI programming failed
In-Reply-To: <13ed887d0612132003u64e9e7e6wff9adc287c79629c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13ed887d0612132003u64e9e7e6wff9adc287c79629c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4580DA36.10003@infowest.com>
CGI programming (server side programming for WWW pages) is commonly done in
PERL or PHP. I've done it with J before so I thought I would try doing
it in A+.
I couldn't get it to work. It appears to me that A+ wants to grab a lot
of memory
at start up. Apache is usually configured with limits on the memory
available to
CGI child processes. It appears that the minimum amount A+ wants to start
with is more than the maximum Apache's default configuration allows.
(And in
my case the hosting service I rent server space from doesn't allow me to
change
the Apache configuration.)
If I understand correctly the command line options for starting up A+
allow for
increasing the initial memory allocation but not for decreasing it. Did
I mis-understand?
From tavmem at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 19:49:49 2006
From: tavmem at gmail.com (Tom Szczesny)
Date: Thu Dec 14 19:50:27 2006
Subject: [apluslist] Tried to resolve the terminal mode error regarding the
missing file.
Message-ID: <13ed887d0612141649q6082fc96qe725c69d50645b87@mail.gmail.com>
As I mentioned yesterday, when I start up A+ in terminal mode, I was getting
an error message regarding a missing file
/usr/lib/a+/idap.+
which does exist as /usr/lib64/a+/idap.+
I created a second copy of this file as /usr/lib/a+/idap.+
and attempted to start A+ again.
I got the following results:
[Tom@localhost ~]$ a+
A+
Copyright (c) 1990-2005 Morgan Stanley. All rights reserved.
This version is Release 4.20
*** glibc detected *** a+: free(): invalid next size (normal):
0x00000000006e4d90 ***
======= Backtrace: =========
/lib64/libc.so.6[0x3476e6ea60]
/lib64/libc.so.6(cfree+0x8c)[0x3476e7217c]
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/liba.so.0(exm+0x123)[0x32e063b323]
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/liba.so.0[0x32e063b588]
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/liba.so.0(rf+0x7c)[0x32e063bf2c]
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/liba.so.0(doloadafile+0x125)[0x32e063d2c5]
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/liba.so.0(loadafile+0x9)[0x32e063d559]
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libIPC.so.0(ipcInstall+0x7a1)[0x32e2e128d1]
a+[0x40256c]
/lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xf4)[0x3476e1da44]
a+(__gxx_personality_v0+0xc9)[0x401cb9]
======= Memory map: ========
00400000-00404000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 4416343
/usr/bin/a+
00603000-00605000 rw-p 00003000 fd:00 4416343
/usr/bin/a+
00605000-006ed000 rw-p 00605000 00:00 0
[heap]
32e0600000-32e0649000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 5147050
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/liba.so
32e0649000-32e0848000 ---p 00049000 fd:00 5147050
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/liba.so
32e0848000-32e0874000 rw-p 00048000 fd:00 5147050
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/liba.so
32e0874000-32e0a56000 rw-p 32e0874000 00:00 0
32e0c00000-32e0c06000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 5147043
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libcxc.so
32e0c06000-32e0e05000 ---p 00006000 fd:00 5147043
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libcxc.so
32e0e05000-32e0e06000 rw-p 00005000 fd:00 5147043
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libcxc.so
32e0e06000-32e0e07000 rw-p 32e0e06000 00:00 0
32e1000000-32e100d000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 5147047
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libcxsys.so
32e100d000-32e120c000 ---p 0000d000 fd:00 5147047
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libcxsys.so
32e120c000-32e120e000 rw-p 0000c000 fd:00 5147047
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libcxsys.so
32e1400000-32e1776000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 5147048
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libMSGUI.so
32e1776000-32e1976000 ---p 00376000 fd:00 5147048
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libMSGUI.so
32e1976000-32e19bc000 rw-p 00376000 fd:00 5147048
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libMSGUI.so
32e19bc000-32e19bf000 rw-p 32e19bc000 00:00 0
32e1a00000-32e1bc8000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 5147046
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libMSTypes.so
32e1bc8000-32e1dc8000 ---p 001c8000 fd:00 5147046
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libMSTypes.so
32e1dc8000-32e1de2000 rw-p 001c8000 fd:00 5147046
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libMSTypes.so
32e1de2000-32e1de4000 rw-p 32e1de2000 00:00 0
32e1e00000-32e1e0f000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 5147064
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libdap.so
32e1e0f000-32e200f000 ---p 0000f000 fd:00 5147064
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libdap.so
32e200f000-32e2011000 rw-p 0000f000 fd:00 5147064
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libdap.so
32e2011000-32e2013000 rw-p 32e2011000 00:00 0
32e2200000-32e2224000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 5147044
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libMSIPC.so
32e2224000-32e2424000 ---p 00024000 fd:00 5147044
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libMSIPC.so
32e2424000-32e2426000 rw-p 00024000 fd:00 5147044
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libMSIPC.so
32e2600000-32e2613000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 5147042
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libesf.so
32e2613000-32e2813000 ---p 00013000 fd:00 5147042
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libesf.so
32e2813000-32e2814000 rw-p 00013000 fd:00 5147042
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libesf.so
32e2814000-32e2816000 rw-p 32e2814000 00:00 0
32e2a00000-32e2b71000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 5147051
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libAplusGUI.so
32e2b71000-32e2d71000 ---p 00171000 fd:00 5147051
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libAplusGUI.so
32e2d71000-32e2d89000 rw-p 00171000 fd:00 5147051
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libAplusGUI.so
32e2d89000-32e2d8a000 rw-p 32e2d89000 00:00 0
32e2e00000-32e2e1f000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 5147049
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libIPC.so
32e2e1f000-32e301f000 ---p 0001f000 fd:00 5147049
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libIPC.so
32e301f000-32e3022000 rw-p 0001f000 fd:00 5147049
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libIPC.so
32e3200000-32e3203000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 5147045
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libcxb.so
32e3203000-32e3402000 ---p 00003000 fd:00 5147045
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libcxb.so
32e3402000-32e3403000 rw-p 00002000 fd:00 5147045
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libcxb.so
32e3600000-32e3601000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 5146830
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libcxs.so
32e3601000-32e3800000 ---p 00001000 fd:00 5146830
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libcxs.so
32e3800000-32e3801000 rw-p 00000000 fd:00 5146830
/usr/lib64/aplus-fsf/4.20.2/libcxs.so
3476a00000-3476a1a000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 22183996
/lib64/ld-2.5.so
3476c19000-3476c1a000 r--p 00019000 fd:00 22183996
/lib64/ld-2.5.so
3476c1a000-3476c1b000 rw-p 0001a000 fd:00 22183996
/lib64/ld-2.5.so
3476e00000-3476f44000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 22183997
/lib64/libc-2.5.so
3476f44000-3477144000 ---p 00144000 fd:00 22183997
/lib64/libc-2.5.so
3477144000-3477148000 r--p 00144000 fd:00 22183997
/lib64/libc-2.5.so
3477148000-3477149000 rw-p 00148000 fd:00 22183997
/lib64/libc-2.5.so
3477149000-347714e000 rw-p 3477149000 00:00 0
3477200000-3477203000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 22184001
/lib64/libdl-2.5.so
3477203000-3477402000 ---p 00003000 fd:00 22184001
/lib64/libdl-2.5.so
3477402000-3477403000 r--p 00002000 fd:00 22184001
/lib64/libdl-2.5.so
3477403000-3477404000 rw-p 00003000 fd:00 22184001
/lib64/libdl-2.5.so
3477600000-3477682000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 22184225
/lib64/libm-2.5.so
3477682000-3477881000 ---p 00082000 fd:00 22184225
/lib64/libm-2.5.so
3477881000-3477882000 r--p 00081000 fd:00 22184225
/lib64/libm-2.5.so
3477882000-3477883000 rw-p 00082000 fd:00 22184225
/lib64/libm-2.5.so
3477a00000-3477a15000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 22184119
/lib64/libpthread-2.5.so
3477a15000-3477c14000 ---p 00015000 fd:00 22184119
/lib64/libpthread-2.5.so
3477c14000-3477c15000 r--p 00014000 fd:00 22184119
/lib64/libpthread-2.5.so
3477c15000-3477c16000 rw-p 00015000 fd:00 22184119
/lib64/libpthread-2.5.so
3477c16000-3477c1a000 rw-p 3477c16000 00:00 0
3478a00000-3478a05000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 4395344
/usr/lib64/libXdmcp.so.6.0.0
3478a05000-3478c04000 ---p 00005000 fd:00 4395344
/usr/lib64/libXdmcp.so.6.0.0
3478c04000-3478c05000 rw-p 00004000 fd:00 4395344
/usr/lib64/libXdmcp.so.6.0.0
3479200000-3479202000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 4395206
/usr/lib64/libXau.so.6.0.0
3479202000-3479401000 ---p 00002000 fd:00 4395206
/usr/lib64/libXau.so.6.0.0
3479401000-3479402000 rw-p 00001000 fd:00 4395206
/usr/lib64/libXau.so.6.0.0
3479e00000-3479f04000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 4395529
/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6.2.0
3479f04000-347a104000 ---p 00104000 fd:00 4395529
/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6.2.0
347a104000-347a10b000 rw-p 00104000 fd:00 4395529
/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6.2.0
347a600000-347a614000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 22184229
/lib64/libnsl-2.5.so
347a614000-347a813000 ---p 00014000 fd:00 22184229
/lib64/libnsl-2.5.so
347a813000-347a814000 r--p 00013000 fd:00 22184229
/lib64/libnsl-2.5.so
347a814000-347a815000 rw-p 00014000 fd:00 22184229
/lib64/libnsl-2.5.so
347a815000-347a817000 rw-p 347a815000 00:00 0
3487000000-348700d000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 22184125
/lib64/libgcc_s-4.1.1-20061011.so.1
348700d000-348720c000 ---p 0000d000 fd:00 22184125
/lib64/libgcc_s-4.1.1-20061011.so.1
348720c000-348720d000 rw-p 0000c000 fd:00 22184125
/lib64/libgcc_s-4.1.1-20061011.so.1
3488c00000-3488ce7000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 4399920
/usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6.0.8
3488ce7000-3488ee7000 ---p 000e7000 fd:00 4399920
/usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6.0.8
3488ee7000-3488eed000 r--p 000e7000 fd:00 4399920
/usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6.0.8
3488eed000-3488ef0000 rw-p 000ed000 fd:00 4399920
/usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6.0.8
3488ef0000-3488f02000 rw-p 3488ef0000 00:00 0
2aaaaaaab000-2aaaaaaad000 rw-p 2aaaaaaab000 00:00 0
2aaaaaac5000-2aaaaaacf000 rw-p 2aaaaaac5000 00:00 0
2aaaaaacf000-2aaaaaad9000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 22183964
/lib64/libnss_files-2.5.so
2aaaaaad9000-2aaaaacd8000 ---p 0000a000 fd:00 22183964
/lib64/libnss_files-2.5.so
2aaaaacd8000-2aaaaacd9000 r--p 00009000 fd:00 22183964
/lib64/libnss_files-2.5.so
2aaaaacd9000-2aaaaacda000 rw-p 0000a000 fd:00 22183964
/lib64/libnss_files-2.5.so
2aaaac000000-2aaaac021000 rw-p 2aaaac000000 00:00 0
2aaaac021000-2aaab0000000 ---p 2aaaac021000 00:00 0
7fffeb750000-7fffeb770000 rw-p 7fffeb750000 00:00 0
[stack]
ffffffffff600000-ffffffffffe00000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
[vdso]
Aborted
[Tom@localhost ~]$
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From steve at shrogers.com Thu Dec 14 21:38:41 2006
From: steve at shrogers.com (Steven H. Rogers)
Date: Thu Dec 14 21:39:16 2006
Subject: [apluslist] Tried to resolve the terminal mode error regarding
the missing file.
In-Reply-To: <13ed887d0612141649q6082fc96qe725c69d50645b87@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13ed887d0612141649q6082fc96qe725c69d50645b87@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45820AB1.8000005@shrogers.com>
Tom Szczesny wrote:
> As I mentioned yesterday, when I start up A+ in terminal mode, I was
> getting an error message regarding a missing file
> /usr/lib/a+/idap.+
> which does exist as /usr/lib64/a+/idap.+
>
> I created a second copy of this file as /usr/lib/a+/idap.+
> and attempted to start A+ again.
> I got the following results:
>
> ...
Did you build A+ yourself are are you using a binary that from someone else?
\ Steve
From tavmem at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 15:32:35 2006
From: tavmem at gmail.com (Tom Szczesny)
Date: Fri Dec 15 15:32:41 2006
Subject: [apluslist] Re: apluslist Digest, Vol 23,
Issue 3 (I did not build the A+ myself.)
Message-ID: <13ed887d0612151232y593d2adjf851f82d59c9435d@mail.gmail.com>
I downloaded the 4.18 binary (Linux-Red Hat ia64) from the A+ website, .
Later, I automatically received a Fedora package update which upgraded my
system to 4.20
On 12/15/06, apluslist-request@aplusdev.net
wrote:
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>
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:38:41 -0700
> From: "Steven H. Rogers"
> Subject: Re: [apluslist] Tried to resolve the terminal mode error
> regarding the missing file.
> To: apluslist@aplusdev.net
> Message-ID: <45820AB1.8000005@shrogers.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Tom Szczesny wrote:
> > As I mentioned yesterday, when I start up A+ in terminal mode, I was
> > getting an error message regarding a missing file
> > /usr/lib/a+/idap.+
> > which does exist as /usr/lib64/a+/idap.+
> >
> > I created a second copy of this file as /usr/lib/a+/idap.+
> > and attempted to start A+ again.
> > I got the following results:
> >
> > ...
>
> Did you build A+ yourself are are you using a binary that from someone
> else?
>
> \ Steve
>
>
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