[apluslist] setting-up A+ fonts for Xemacs

[Pedro Rodrigues de Almeida]

Hi Sasha,

You were righ, the Apple key does work (namely for typing iota and 
getting the right index generation) but it seems it conflicts with the 
X11 defauts, i.e., some of these key combinations are already in use to 
o something else. So, I found a turn-around for this simply by not 
enabling the use of the Meta-key for the X11 toolbar while working 
under an application such as Xemacs.

I guess that is all for the moments - thanks a lot. Now new questions 
will arise related to the language itself... stay tuned,

Cheers,

Pedro



On Feb 26, 2004, at 1:20 AM, Alexander Skomorokhov wrote:

> Pedro,
>
>> I managed to run Xemacs - yes, F4 opens the A+ window and when I press
>> Meta-I 3 then only thing I get is the Sterling Pound symbol (which is
>> not even available in my keyboard...).
>>
>> If I press return nothing happens, i.e., no number sequence is
>> generated (I suppose that is what Meta-I 3 generates, right?).
> When you succeed you will see Greek letter {iota} after you press
> Meta-I. This is A+ function index generator and for expression  {iota}3
> you would get an answer 0 1 2 (index origin 0). So your session in
> A+ window of xemacs should look like
>           {iota}3
> 0 1 2
>
>> this  means the fonts are displayed correctly
> No, it means the fonts are _not_ displayed correctly:-) You have to 
> have
> {iota} except of  {Sterling Pound} symbol. But the "look bad" 
> expression
> has to work any way, So, it has to be:
> 	{Sterling Pound}3
> 0 1 2
>
> What do you have in return if you proceed it? Does font independent 2+3
> return 5?
>
>> but the keys do not translate
>> to the right characters, I suppose...
> The other issue is what is Meta key. With windows usual keyboard (we 
> use on
> Linux
> boxes) it is often Alt key. But sometimes "Windows" key performs as a 
> Meta
> key
> instead of Alt. What key do you use as a Meta key on your Mac 
> keyboard? Try
> different, like Alt, "Apple" (with apple symbol on it) and even Esc.
>
>> Should I get another keyb.el file (the one I use is located at
>> /usr/local/aplus-fsf-4.18/lisp.1/) or modify any of the .el files 
>> under
>> this directory?
> I never tried this. But I played with system setting for keyboard and
> sometimes
> change from 101 to 104 keys helped...
>
> Regards,
> Sasha.
>
>> On Feb 25, 2004, at 11:13 PM, Alexander Skomorokhov wrote:
>>
>>> Pedro,
>>>
>>> The problem may be because of
>>>
>>> 1. lisp macro to customize xemacs
>>> 2. font itself
>>>
>>> The first is more serious (IMHO), so, please, confirm that you may
>>> start xemacs
>>> press F4 to start A+ in xemacs
>>> press Meta-I 3 and get 1 2 3 (if even Meta-I generates something
>>> awful).
>>>
>>> If the above works for you, than you are almost ok. Congratulations.
>>>
>>> As for fonts you may try my script I use in Linux to start A+xemacs:
>>> ------------------cut here--------------------------
>>> #!/bin/bash
>>> xemacs -l
>>> /usr/local/aplus-fsf-4.18/lisp/.emacs -fn
>>> --kapl-screen-r-normal--15-150-72-
>>> 72-m--iso8859-1
>>> ------------------cut here--------------------------
>>> It solved for me all the problems like this in Linux. You see it pass
>>> lisp
>>> macro directly and pass
>>> font directly with it's "full" name.
>>>
>>> I recently played with wiki installation on OS X 10.2 and SuSE Linux
>>> 8.2 and
>>> found that it's almost identical
>>> (apache, mysql and php script installation and configuration). That's
>>> why I
>>> hope my script may help you.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Sasha.
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: apluslist-bounces at aplusdev.net
>>>> [mailto:apluslist-bounces at aplusdev.net]On Behalf Of Pedro De Almeida
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 11:33 PM
>>>> To: apluslist at aplusdev.net
>>>> Subject: [apluslist] setting-up A+ fonts for Xemacs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Subject: setting-up A+ fonts for Xemacs
>>>>
>>>> Hi there!
>>>>
>>>> I have installed A+ and also Xemacs on my iBook G4, under Mac OS
>>>> 10.3. I
>>>> have installed the necessary fonts in the respective X11 directory 
>>>> and
>>>> updated the fonts.dir and fonts.alias files.
>>>>
>>>> However, when I start Xemacs I can not get the all the fonts 
>>>> properly
>>>> displayed (i.e., all the ones that are available in the KAPL 
>>>> family).
>>>>
>>>> Could this be due to the encoding? Any suggestions? Also, I do
>>>> not get the
>>>> right key translation (yes, my iBook has a US keyboard)
>>>>
>>>> Since I am new to both A+ and also to APL would you recommend me 
>>>> some
>>>> adequate references (books, manuals, etc.)?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot,
>>>>
>>>> Pedro
>>>> Helsinki - Finland
>>>>
>>>>
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